From: Illias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 11:39 PM
Subject: YOUR QUOTABLE QUOTE ???????

 

YOUR QUOTABLE QUOTE ???????

Dear Sultan Qureshi,

1.    It was very pleasant to hear from you, especially para no7 as follows :-

" 7. Your ( Illias's )so-called challenge has been replied now."

2.    Dear Qureshi, DID YOU READ my challenging article BEFORE you replied?


YOUR  QUOTABLE  QUOTE

3.    The SCANNED COPY of Torah English Translation PUBLISHED BY JEWS

which you have sent is EXACTLY WHAT I HAD USED TO DISPROVE THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE-----WORD TO WORD, THE SAME.

4.    You are quoting the same thing to me AND CLAIMING that the

challenge has been replied.

5.    ENGLISH TORAH PRINTED BY JEWS QUOTED BY SULTAN QURESHI :

“22.  If a man is guilty of a capital offence and is put to death, and you impale  him on a stake. 23.  You must not let his corpse remain on the stake OVERNIGHT, but must bury him the same day.  For an impaled body is an affront to God: you shall not defile the land that the Lord your God is giving you to possess.”

  ENGLISH TORAH PRINTED BY JEWS QUOTED BY ILLIAS SUTTAR:

 “22.  If a man is guilty of a capital offence and is put to death, and you impale him on  a stake. 23.  You must not let his corpse remain on the stake OVERNIGHT, but must bury him the same day.  For an impaled body is an affront to God: you shall not defile the land that the Lord your God is giving you to possess.”

Are the two quotations not EXACTLY the SAME?   Are the two quotations not EXACTLY the SAME?

WHAT WAS THE SENSE OF QUOTING THE SCANNED COPY OF THE

SAME VERSES WHICH I HAD ALREADY QUOTED ?


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6.    I AM GIVING THE RELEVANT PARTS OF MY ARTICLE BELOW :-

   

St. Paul says in the BIBLE in Galatians 3/13:  “But by becoming a curse for us Christ has redeemed us from the curse that the Law brings;  FOR THE SCRIPTURE SAYS,   ‘Anyone   who is hanged    on a tree is under   God’s Curse’ ”

 

St. Paul has by mistake given a false statement against the SCRIPTURE.

 

Where DOES THE SCRIPTURE SAY ? :  “Anyone who is hanged on a tree is

                        under God’s curse”.

 

Where ?  Where ?  Search everywhere, you will find it nowhere.  The concept of accursed death was invented by St. Paul in Galatians 3.13.


 In a Bible printed by Christians the concept of curse is NOT PART OF THE VERSE BUT is given within brackets as follows:-

 

A  BIBLE Printed By Christians ( Within Brackets )

(Deuteronomy 21 : 23 from The Scofield Reference Bible 1917) 

 “23.  His body shall not remain All NIGHT upon the tree, but thou shalt in any  wise bury him that day;  (((((  for he that is hanged is accursed of  * God;  )))))that thy land be not defiled, which the Lord thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.”     *Gal. 3.13

 

OBSERVATION

In Deuteronomy 21:23 the concept of curse is given within brackets

and   with the help of asterisk (*) says that the statement within the brackets is actually the statement of St. Paul  in Galatians in 3 :13.


A BIBLE printed By Christians ( Neither in Brackets Nor Without Brackets )

 

THE  GOOD  NEWS  BIBLE  1977  (3RD PRINT)  PRINTED BY   the

 CHRISTIANS  themselves  ALSO DOES NOT MENTION CURSE ON THE

     HANGED MAN   EITHER IN BRACKET   OR WITHOUT BRACKET

 

Good News Bible page 192 DEUTERONOMY  21:22,23

22 “If a man has been put to death for a crime and his body is hung on a post,  23 it is not to remain there overnight. It must be buried the same day,  because a dead body hanging on a post brings God’s curse on the land. Bury the body, so that you will not defile the land that the LORD your God is giving you.


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TORAH PRINTED BY  JEWS  —  INTERESTING

The Jewish Publication Society, Philadelphia / Jerusalem, Page 375

NEITHER IN BRACKETS NOR WITHOUT BRACKETS

In the Torah printed by Jews in Deuteronomy 21:22,23 the concept of curse on the hanged man is not given either in bracket or without bracket. Actually, the curse is not on the man BUT on the land. Please see Deuteronomy 21:22,23

below:

 

“22.  If a man is guilty of a capital offence and is put to death, and you impale him on a stake. 23.  You must not let his corpse remain on the stake OVERNIGHT, but must bury him the same day. For an impaled body is an  affront to God: you shall not defile the land that the Lord your God is giving you to possess.”


 7.    OBSERVATION  OBSERVATION OBSERVATION

(1)  The curse is on the land and not on the man

(2)  Mr. Hanif Motiwala adds:  The curse on the land is ONLY if the corpse  remains on the stake OVERNIGHT___ Jesus was not  on the cross during the night ( he was on the cross only during the day-time). So the curse was NEITHER on the man NOR on the land.

 

So how St. Paul says in Galatians 3/13 : “BUT BY becoming a curse for us Christ……..”


8.  My Challenge : Show the statement that " anyone who is hanged on a

tree is under God's curse". in the Torah printed by Jews and get reward of Rs. 5 lacs.


9. CHALLENGE  MADE  MORE  EASY

You have CLAIMED : " Your so called challenge has been replied now."

If your reply proves that St. Paul's statement " for the scripture says' Anyone who is hanged on a tree is under God's curse' is present in the English Torah printed by the Jews, then you will get 5 lacs  reward  ( Pak rupees ). BANK GUARANTEE WILL BE GIVEN IN ADVANCE.

10. Further, judges of all faiths are acceptable whether they are Christians, Jews, Bahais, Hindus, Buddhists etc.

11.Supreme Courts of all countries acceptable whether USA, UK, Israel, France, Japan, Italy, Germany etc. , etc. , etc.


12. IF JUDGES ARE NOT AVAILABLE TO YOUR BENEFIT, please get the judgment from the World's chief leader of either Christianity, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists or Bahais. Don't bother all five of them. Leader of anyone faith out of the five will do.


 13. ONE MORE NEW CHALLENGE

If Mirza Tahir Ahmed, Khalifa of Ahmadis/Qadianis only says that the Jewish English Torah quoted by Sultan Qureshi is SENSIBLY Quoted in reply to Illias Suttar's relevant article, I will give you Rs. 1 lac reward.

Mirza Tahir need not clarify that Qureshi has successfully replied to the challenge of Illias Suttar. He only has to say that the quotation is sensible in reply to Illias Suttar’s relevant article.

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