From: Hanif Motiwala
[hanifmtw@super.net.pk]
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 8:57 AM
Subject: METAPHORIC ISSA…………CHALLENGE
Dear Sultan Qureshi,
You have changed the subject from “Accursed Death” to evidence of physical life of Jesus Christ in the heavens”. Well, I put my challenge for all Ahmadis / Qadianis on this new subject in this forum.
CHALLENGE CHALLENGE CHALLENGE
We challenge all Ahmadis / Qadianis to put a single hadith in the words of our prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) saying that “metaphor” Issa Masih Ibn Marium (A.S) will come in future”.
We Muslims see it is not possible, that the prophet (S.A.W) who was the medium of the book the Holy Quran (which is until to-day taken as a gold standard of literature among non-Muslims Arabic speaking people), he never mentioned the word metaphor of Issa (A.S).……… We Muslims can never accept that………. We clearly tell you Ahmadis / Qadianis that by doing so, (believing in metaphor Issa Masih) the only thing you do is “blame” our Master Muhammed (S.A.W).
One hidden hand framed a conspiracy against Islam. This hidden hand planted two metaphoric Issa as promised Masiha. One from “Shia” Mirza Hussain Ali “Bahaullah” (1863 to 1892) in Iran and another metaphor Issa as Promised Masiha from “Sunni” Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani (1880 to 1908) in India.
Their period of twelve years (1880 - 1892) is contemporary period. Bahais believe that metaphoric promised Masiha (Mirza Ghulam Ahmed) is a liar. The Ahmadis / Qadianis believe that metaphoric promised Masiha (Bahaullah) is a liar. What an interesting game is of their hidden master, who planted them in Muslim society for hidden purpose.
Since last Quarter of 19th Century A.D. Muslims are having twO viewS about Issa (A.S) whether he will come from heavens or not?
One view is followed by those Muslims who agreed with Sir Syed Ahmed Khan who wrote in his translation of Quran in 1882 A.D. that Issa Ibn Marium (A.S) died his natural death……… (in that perioD till 1891 MirzA Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani was holding the faith that Issa Ibn Marium (A.S) is alive in the heavens and he will come in future.)………
Those people believe that all the traditions (Hadith) according to which Issa Ibn Marium (A.S) will descend from the heavens in last period of the world are by mistake attributed towards our prophet (S. A. W) and position of these traditions is “AHAD” information (a term which means that Hadith is very weak). So they believe that Issa Ibn Marium (A.S) will never come again in this world and they believe these traditions were infused by new Muslims who were converted from Christianity and holding this faith in their pervious religion.
The second view is followed by those Muslims in majority about Issa Ibn Marium (A.S), who follow the Muslim Ulema of Ummah who believe that according to Quran, in light of traditions of our prophet (S.A.W), Issa Ibn Marium is alive in the heavens and he himself will descend in future from the heavens. No metaphor Issa at all.
So conclusion comes out from both views that no imposter can put his step in place of Issa Ibn Marium as a metaphor.
“BELIEF IN DESCENT OF MASIH IS NOT SUCH A BELIEF WHICH IS PART OF OUR BASIC FAITH”………MIRZA GHULAM AHMED “First of all take notice that belief in descent of Masih is not such a belief which is part of our basic faith. It is not a fundamental faith of our “DEEN”, but it is one forecast from hundreds of forecasts. It has no concern with reality of Islam. Islam was not imperfect when the prophecy was not stated and Islam did not become perfect because it was stated” (quoted from Mirza Ghulam Ahmed’s book “Izala-e-Awham” First edition page 140)
In court of justice Munir about “investigation of disturbances in Punjab” Mirza Bashiruddin was asked by the Court.
Justice Munir” “So is it essential part of the faith (Juzwe Iman) to believe in Mirza Ghulam Ahmed?” Qadiani Khalifa Mirza Bashiruddin replied “No” (Jee Nahin)”.
Dear Sultan Qureshi in light of above discussion your new subject “evidence of Issa alive in the Heavens” is not but waste of time for you, because:
(1) There has been no ground left for you to preach your so called metaphoric Issa……. Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) never informed us of any metaphoric Issa
(2) and Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani does not accept it as a fundamentaL parT of Islam,
(3) Qadiani Khalifa Bashiruddin does not consider an essential part of faith to believe in Mirza Ghulam Ahmed.
Blessing is upon the man who does not close his eyes in bright day light.
Hanif Motiwala