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Reply to EZ board by Illias Suttar
Calendar Or No
CALENDAR My Dear Asadullah Nizami, Thank you for your post no.9 dated 12th May 2002. In the e.z-board. You have mentioned as follows:- "He says that Jesus (as) died when he was 120 age, NOT IN 120 A.D. You see the Christian calendar is false and wrong, why do u belief the Paul Died in 65 A.D. ?????"
AnsweRMirza Ghulam Ahmed is proved wrong EVEN WITHOUT the help of calendar. Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Saheb has clearly acknowledged that Hadrat Isa (AS) was 33 years old when he migrated from Jerusalem and 87 years later died in Srinagar at the age of 120 years. Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Saheb says on page 87 in his book "KASHTI-I-NUH” as follows:- "Paul gave a lot of trouble to the Messiah,…….…… and when the Messiah after escaping death on the cross went towards Kashmir,…….…… then Paul, on the basis of a wrong dream, mixed himself among the disciples and introduced the problem of Trinity…….…… and entered the belief of Trinity in the Gospel." OBSERVATION: From the above extract of "Kashti-I-Nuh" it is very clear that according to MGA the following may be concluded:- (1) Paul is the same Paul who according to the New Testament saw a dream in Damascus. (2) Paul started Trinity. (3) Paul was alive and reasonably grownup when the Messiah was put on the cross. (4) The Messiah (according to MGA) was 33 years old when he was put on the cross……… (Paul was only few years younger than the Messiah. Therefore, Paul was a YOUNG man on the day of crucifixion.) (5) According to MGA, the Messiah was alive for 87 years after the event of crucifixion. CAN YOU ALLOW 87 years of life to young St. Paul AFTER the event of crucifixion ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ---------- No, Never, No, IF YOU know -----------
(6) Calendar or NO calendar, AD OR no AD, Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Saheb is 100% wrong when he says that the seed of Trinity was sown by St. Paul (whose life span was around 60 years) after the death of the Messiah who lived for 120 years. How can Paul who died before the MESSIAH sow the seed of Trinity after the death of the MESSIAH.
"Kashti-I-Nuh" or "Anjam-e-Athum"Kashmir or Death
(A) How will you compare "KASHTI-I-NUH" in which MGA says that Paul started wrong preaching after the Messiah left for KASHMIR………….. with ……….……. "ANJAM-E-ATHUM" in which MGA says that Paul started wrong preaching after the death of the Messiah? (B) Before replying to the above paragraph-A, please remember: (i) In the book "Kashti-I-Nuh" the Messiah’s going to Kashmir is the original story from the mind of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed. (ii) In the book "Anjam-e-Athum" MGA is giving original commentary from his own mind on the Verse No.118 of Surah Al-Maidah. (iii) So both the story and the commentary of "Kashti-I-Nuh” AND "Anjam-e-Athum" have originated from MGA himself. (iv) So MGA is 100% responsible for the contradiction shown in paragraph-A………. So MGA is himself not rightly guided. Follow those who are RIGHTLY GUIDED The Holy Quran ……….. "Published under the auspices of Hadrat Mirza Nasir Ahmad, Third Successor of the Promised Messiah and Head of the Ahmadiyyah Movement in Islam" ………. gives the following translation of Verse No.22 of Surah Yasin:- "Follow those who ask of you no reward, and who are rightly guided." CAN MIRZA GHULAM AHMED be considered as Rightly Guided in the light of the contradictions originally coming from his OWN mind?
No, Never, No, If You Know
Words of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed:"It is a pity that once a man has given utterance to something, when he has taken his stand upon a particular belief, he is not inclined to give up that belief, however much the absurdity thereof be exposed." (Page 24, “Jesus in India”) Pak Rupees 5 Lacs reward If you prove wrong my article "Calendar or no Calendar M.G.A. is 100% wrong" in any Supreme Court of the world, you will be given a reward of Pak Rupees 5 Lacs. The judge of the Supreme Court can be Ahmadi/Qadiani, Jew, Christian, Bahai, Hindu or of any other faith. If you agree to go to the Court, I will furnish Bank Guarantee before the start of the case. |